With the increase of the amounts invested in the arrangement of the rental apartments and against the background of unpleasant experiences with the tenants, more and more owners in Romania ask them the criminal record and the employment contract. What do the tenants say and how legal it is?
The owners have more and more requirements from the tenants. Photo: Pixabay
A user of the Reddit platform was upset by the request of the owner of a studio in Bucharest: “I would like to move and found a studio really ok with rent 350 euros, etc. until I found out that the owner wants a record and a copy of the (indeterminate) work contract and to make the contract at ANAF (this seems ok) and asks for 1 month guarantee + a rent.”
The young man seems to be a bit strange requests and asks for advice from the users of the platform: “It seems to me a lot or is it ok? At the rent where I stay now, I gave him a one-month guarantee and so on, but I want to leave Vitan faster that I hate this place.”
The answers were not delayed to appear.
“Hi, I do not know if in Ro is practicing, but in the Netherlands, besides two months a guarantee and the proof that I had to make a liability insurance. Somewhere at 4th per month, but it covers 1mil if I cause unintentional damage. to one? ”writes a user.
“I would agree 1000% when I rent an apartment to pay a special insurance for this than guarantees”someone else replies.
“The problem is that our” landlords “will not accept this too easily, because there it would be necessary to prove their damages, and to prove that they are due to the tenant.”comes the reply of another user.
“Due to many unpleasant situations, some owners begin to ask for the first month plus two months guarantee and even the proof of a stable income, in this case the employment contract”, complete a user.
“You can make a copy and hide the sensitive details such as salary, benefits, etc.”someone advises.
“As a diverse fact, the first month is required, a negotiated warehouse, the proof of a stable income plus reference from the last owner”completes someone else.
“It is absolutely necessary to make checks, otherwise you stay with damage.”
“I have written about these things. And I have had unpleasant situations and I always read that other owners still have problems. It is absolutely necessary to make checks, account extracted for income, checked on the site of the credits office, checked on the portal of the courts.“, Another user shows.
“Wrong woman, if I did so I had no very unpleasant experiences”, says an owner who happened to him with the tenants.
“Ask for a little lease. With 350 € replaces absolutely nothing of apartment If you have broken something and left leaving the key in the mail ”- explains a commentator.
In reply is told that, in fact, “The guarantee is to solve minor problems and for which it would not be worth going to court. That if they were to cover everything that could be needed, it would be a sum of nobody, whether it wouldn't have it or if it has better to buy that money.”
The record is a little too much
“As for the part with the record and the contract, yes, it is a bit Too Much (too much-nr), but you may have had problems with the tenants and so it feels safer”, support a tenant.
“Is Too Much not to want to have criminals in rent?”an owner replies.
“I had situations when I checked on the court portal and I found criminals or sued for debts (utilities, credits, etc.). Any chiraş must be checked before, unfortunately not all people as they seem at first.” detail another owner.
“Then it is correct to offer the owner and the record because the tenants do not want to give money to the criminals”asks for a commentator.
“I am not interested in what I do as long as I pay for these and do not steal/destroy without paying. Let's be serious, offenders as many of us. You go with the macea and you clearly tell them: this sofa costs 3mii. Write an owner who believes in threats.
“He probably had problems before (with Drogalai?) And that is why he asks for a record and to be sure that you pay your rent, you also ask for your employment contract.” interventions someone else.
“It is perfectly normal. In western Europe this is done”
“It is perfectly normal, it is not practiced at the moment but I suspect that they are going to normalize. In many countries you are required of such documents to prove that you allow you to pay the rent and that you will be ok as a tenant”, Says someone.
“There is nothing abnormal. By a practice like this, an acquaintance learned that the person who wanted to rent had a record, on the theft from housing, peak,” Another commentator intervenes.
A Romanian who lived abroad explains the conditions in western Europe: 3 months of rent; the advance payment of the rent; Proof that adults have no debt, children after adult employment contracts.
His statement is confirmed by a Romanian living in Germany: “I confirm everything that was said above. What the owner wants to see in the employment contract: that the contract exists in writing, that it is a contract for an indefinite period, that the period of proof has passed, and obviously the salary to see that you will not have the problems to pay the rent. Refuse. “
“The record is a little exaggerated. Idem employment contract, but there is probably enough to show a source of stable income. In general, the data from the employment contract are confidential, but you can give as an alternative account extracted or salary for the last 3 months.”shows someone else.
“So it is in your choice. I personally do not offer personal data to anyone, so I would probably hesitate in this case. If I insist and accept no alternatives, I would reorient.”, Parks someone else.
“I also ask for an account of account. I understand the situations when the Chiraas refuse on the grounds that they are private information. Then I ask for their greater guarantee”, Says someone else.
“The record is a bit illegal to ask. The law has changed in 2018, I am not a lawyer ”someone raises a problem.
“A fool, I would look for something else”
“A fool. Although I am fine, I would look for something else I would not have to deal with the paranoid baba. I had to deal with people who were always standing with his eyebrow and had the impression that something was going to happen. Lesson Learned. At the slightest sign of” suspicion “.someone commented.
“From these like you I give me when they call me. They do not want to hear about checks. Then I tell them that they need a bigger guarantee, suddenly they become more cooperative than to pay extra”, An owner intervened.
“The employment contract is a sensitive act, it has nothing to do with all the flames with studios in rent”, says someone else.
“As well as the account extracts, to see what expenses you have to know how much to you.says another commentator.
“These documents are not mandatory for rent”
“The law is law. These documents are not mandatory for rent, you already give a bulletin. You are doing problems? To sue that they only have a lease”, completes someone else.
“How long is it legal to ask for your record?” – A user asks.
“The employer is not allowed to ask for your record. Exceptions make certain jobs where it is clearly specified.”support another commentator.
“Well, if you don't have a record, why are you afraid? Don't cost you anything. She takes you in her house of 100,000 euros on confidence with 350 euros and you think it's much.”
After all, the young man who made the post came back with a clarification: he showed that he accepted the conditions and moved to the mentioned studio.
According to the law, the tenant is not obliged to give the tax record to the owner. If you refuse, the owner may decide not to rent, because rental is a voluntary civil contract and both parties can determine the conditions. Some owners ask for a record for reasons for “safety” or to filter tenants. It is morally questionable, but not illegal if your consent exists.
