Do the radical promises of the Polish president arouse reactions in Romania: tougher than those of the native sovereigns?
The promises of Polish President Karol Nawrocki, including the total ban on abortion, compulsory religious education, creating a nationalist civil guards, were intensely commented by Romanians. Are these promises more “worse” than what the Romanian sovereigns propose?
George Simion supported Karol Nawrocki in the election campaign. Photo: Profimedia
The elections in Poland were won by Karol Nawrocki, an independent candidate, supported in the last part of the Campaign of the PIS Conservative Party. Karol Nawrocki (42 years old) is a nationalist historian with relationships in the underworld and admirer of US President Donald Trump.
Karol Nawrocki's victory risks blocking the government's progressive agenda, especially in abortion and LGBT rights, and could reappear tensions with Brussels on legal issues.
It could also endanger the ties with the neighboring Ukraine, because Nawrocki criticizes Ukraine's plans for EU and NATO and wants to reduce the benefits for Ukrainian refugees.
On the Reddit platform, the Romanians comment on the promises of the Polish president:
– the total ban on abortion
– Limitation of LBTQ+ rights
– Mandatory religious education
– Nine Constitution with Christian Values
– Stopping the “EU ideology” in schools and press
– Creating a nationalist civil guards
– Total alignment with US, not Brussels
(Promises were selected in a TVR show)
“Let us thank those who voted in Romania, not to judge the choice of Poles”
We play some of the more than 500 messages posted on Platfrom Reddit:
“Yes, my religion in politics came to my head, what is Jesus with the GDP of the country? Will he help St. Michael with the budget deficit? Leave my brother with religion. This is 100%indoctrination. I have nothing with any religious man, but after me, religion has nothing to do in politics.”
“Thanks to those who voted in Romania, not to judge the choice of Poles, in their place, we could be! What will follow? No, we don't know … I see. The choice of Poles must be a signal, a warning, the rest, it depends on us, on each of us. So much! ”
“National Civil Guard? Oh Boy …. Here we go Again ….”
“For those who say it is less problematic for Poles than it would have been for us if Simion had come out … seeing this line of ideas, I allow myself to have doubts.”
“Following their choices, I can only be grateful that everything was good for us. We could be in their light situation.”
“However, the man is powerful pro nato and is anti -Russian. She has been on something “blacklist” in Russia for a few years. However, it is a conservative Christian (that half of the Poles otherwise, this is the reality). And Vafal made mistakes, such as displaying with Mentzen and trying to get his support (Mentzen is one who wanted to rape the woman to be forced to give birth, saying that the 12 -year -old granddaughter would be born if she had been raped. She took 15%, being massively voted by young people) “” “
“After repairing your whole country with EU funds you take on oil with 19th-century doctrines
“So the first one, the peak, is the antioamers. How the hell do you impose that in his time such a measure? I am not a big abortion fan either, but some women need, the situation is more complex than that, there are many aspects. They actually have a preparatory class thinking.
“I really do not understand how you can align with the US when you see how Trump treats those allies with him.”
“After repairing your whole country with EU funds you take on oil with 19th-century doctrines
“I mean exactly what the PIS has done so far. Abortion is already almost forbidden, there are already anti-LGBT areas, they have always been in the last 20 years aligned with the US and not with the EU, etc.”
“But now at least have a government that can balance things a bit. The situation in Poland is not similar to ours.”
“It seems dangerous to me how much influence can have religion in an area where it should not have at all. It has been seen in us, at least in the canceled tour, when each candidate was with God and the Church, the traditional family and conservative values. I think the greatest fear of people in general is afraid of change, in particular.”
“As far as these “sovereigns” became the name of God, I was rarely given to see, not only in Romania, all over the world. “
“The Poles are a pretty conservative people from what I have seen in the years lived in Poland”
“To prohibit the right to abortion, and in case of rape, The Handmaid's Direct, plus Communism Plus the Civil Guard, a kind of” security “.
“Not to mention the anti-EU principles, except for us (and new fragile but we have managed to resist these elections, to hope that over 4-5 years), Ukraine becomes surrounded by neighbors with anti-Eu and Procuse rhetoric, to see next year what will choose the Hungarians and if they finally escape Orban.
“The only luck in Poland is Donald Tusk as a prime minister who is pro-uu and pro-ukraine, plus the prime minister has a higher decision-making power there, I hope not to dissolve the Nawrocki Parliament to have him with early elections that he is serious. “
“Where someone needs views and votes to take power, that man will say anything to take as many views and votes. Man is interested in this power is the middle or most appropriate to have it. He tells you whatever brings him votes. Hence the job with religion. ”
“This is the TV and social media and the policy.”
“The phase is that the Government of Tusk wants to put progressive nasal taxation. ”
“Another thing. To them is east vs west. It is not that where the great urban is the rest. In them and in the east, the great urban are conservative. Poles are a pretty conservative people from what I saw in the years lived in Poland. Currently I share between Romania and Poland so I know the situation in the field. ”
“The goal is the destruction of the EU from within!”
“The goal is the destruction of the EU from within! It is not pleasant to Trump or Putin! For Poland, much does not change much, the current president in the sovereign area is coming! He has blocked quite a lot of pro me legislative over time! In contrast, Donald Tusk has raised Poland because the President of Poland has much more limited powers than Romania by constitutional nature! For Romania it would be much worse if a president like Simion came! ”
“Nicușor Dan can win the electorate from Simion in the next 5 years and can win the following elections, it depends a lot on the policies he makes for the poorer blanket of the country ”
“With such a program, I am surprised that it was not added to the burning for non -ariotic sins. ”
“What the hell is happening in the world?!
“Serious?? Absolutely no promise to useful economic measures to improve people's lives and safety, but they voted for religious fanaticism. Even so much do you confuse people with LGBTQ rights and abortion to live to live? I can't sleep at night when they think maybe the next day men get married between them ?? As those promises sound, he wants to lead the country according to the Iran model. The peak, these are the same people who are afraid of censorship and Culture Culture. ”
“This is the result of conservative propaganda. They get to see gays, transexuals and immigrants everywhere. In their minds in every school in Europe it is a transsexual Drag Queen who tells the children, 50% of children are on the published block (they are forbidden in Europe), the immigrants are stealing all women, all women are on. Up that does not matter that I see Tiktok, Instagram, YouTube and other idiotic forums.
“TVR exaggerates with those titles. Things remain the same in Poland. He does not compare to Orban's policy, nor what Simion did. Their economy will continue to increase and become military power at the level of Germany. ”
“Anti-abortion nationalists only want to increase forced birth.”
“I do not know much about Polish society but from Poland statistics it is very good at education, they have had an impressive economic growth, they have a western infrastructure, they have no problems with immigrants. “
“Apologies are still looking for us for GS voters, because they are poor, because they are the victims of the system, that they are functional illiterates, but this Nawrocki has won with the same 2 -money speech all over in Eastern Europe (incl. In Romania). I think we have to accept the fact that a large mass of people are simply malicious. ”
“Probably many of things will not be able to be done or will be done in half. Poland being a parliamentary republic, the president has limited powers. The party that supports Nawrocki is not in government. ”
“Let's tell Slleau, anti-spill nationalists only want to increase the birthplace from desirable people for the payment of the future pension and “propagating the nation”, having an aversion to immigrants. The motivation “Moral” (Christian) Anti-abortion is for voting stupidity. “
“Do you not think it is a defense mechanism of the Christian population that perceives a danger of Islamization in Western Europe?”
“All these things are not new”
“Very good, not to receive any money from the EU. To give them Trump funds, if I still support them. And those who voted for benefiting from the European money, not those who undermine it ”
“Fake news. These are not Nawarocki's promises. These are selected things to be as inflammatory as possible, of which most are not even the president's duties. ”
“When reading a list of “promises” (articulated) you expect to see a representative list, or at least which includes the promises considered the most important. Not these shit. ”
“All these things are not new, and they have not necessarily led to any state. Progress in the truth meaning to the word. The thing with abortion, the Catholic country had it, neither did contraceptives use. Let's say it has doubled its population in 100 years, the decrease is clear. ”
“I am not surprised that they voted like that. I lived in Poland for a while and saw that religious manifestations, xenophobia and misogyny are everyday events. ”
