Magdalena Rigamonti: Is there a war algorithm?
Michał Fedorowicz: It is. And it has a Russian Federation, for a long time, since 2014. It discovered social media and their influence. Since then, he has been conducting a systematic information war with the West. By interfering with elections, building anti -social and anti -vaccine movements, through Brexit.
The West does not understand this?
He already understands, but he loses this war. Social media have their own specifics and allow too low budget to reach wide masses. To people who feel excluded from the system. You can easily manage their emotions, incite them and glue with political forces, which directly use this type of mental states of users, build their own political agenda. The war algorithm is that social media is used to obtain political and strategic goals.
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“These drones are Ukrainian is a revenge for 800 plus, refusal to help and refuse to finance Starlinks. Zełenski wants to get us into the war with Russia. He was threatened with President Nawrocki. Ukrainians threaten Poles. They spit on Poland. Everything is clear !!! ” – there are a lot of similar comments on the internet.
38 percent Comments on the Internet about Russian drones more or less like this. It must be said clearly: we lost this stage of war.
Wars with whom?
With Russia. From 2022, Russia is about changing the image of Ukrainians in the eyes of Poles. The idea is to change them from the victims to greedy war instigators who take money from us and still want us to fight for them. Internet users, headed by the editor of Warzech, write that it is not known if these drones were not distorted by Ukrainians, we do not really know who controlled them. And that Ukrainians care to escalate the war, because Putin strives for peace, and they do not agree to peace …
The war algorithm can be overwhelmed?
Unfortunately, we are not able to reverse the anti -Ukrainian narrative, nothing will change. Earth burnt. The weather window is over. We lost, it ended. For two years, the government did nothing to stop anti -Ukrainian mastries. And the populist parties used it well, they basically had a free hand. And in the presidential campaign and now after swearing in, Karol Nawrocki uses it. He is the leader of the Polish right.
“Poles and Ukrainians were left alone”
And creates anti -Ukrainian moods. Also pro -Russian?
Anti -Ukrainian does not explicitly mean pro -Russian. Poland's interests from the perspective of anti -Ukrainian politicians are not identical to the interests of Ukraine, and at many times they are contradictory, such as the issue of agriculture or the entry of Ukraine to the European Union. The right knows from research, from the network, that those people who vote for them do not want it. And nothing will convince them anymore. They are in their anti -Ukrainian world and the end.
It is so -called Case the yard playground – the guys are arguing, who is to play, Ukrainians or Poles. If some play, others wait. And the reason is that during these two years no integration was made, Poles and Ukrainians were left alone. When they get along, it's ok, when they kill themselves – also okay.
The war began in February 2022, then PiS ruled for a year and a half. It was during PiS rule that Ukrainians were brothers, friends and allies.
And now I can bet that half of the Polish society does not know why this war is. It should be remembered that in 2023 there was an action with Ukrainian grain, protests from Polish farmers. Since then, this is an inclined plane when it comes to Polish-Ukrainian relations. Immediately afterwards, the Civic Coalition took over, which left everything alone. Politicians have smiled with the help of Ukrainian to show what good Poles are and it is all.
War in Ukraine. “It was Putin in 100 percent.”
So the Lord puts the thesis that the helplessness of the rulers is stronger than Russian disinformation?
I put the thesis that today from the perspective of Russian goals, communication strategy, the war against the unity of Poles and Ukrainians was won. And this was realized without giving one shot.
Vladimir PutinKremlin.ru
This is 100 % Putin It succeeded at the social and political level. Now the next stage of the war is ahead of us.
Are you still talking about the information war?
Yes, Russia has another goal: NATO. It is about the inclusion of 30-40 percent Polish Internet users who will write that NATO will not help us, we are alone, NATO is worth nothing. This is aimed at choosing populist parties that approach the United States and rejecting the European Union. I am talking about the confederation, the Brauna party. I am talking about populist parties throughout Europe.
After all, in Germany or France you can no longer rule without them. And with us the principle of President Kaczyński has long ceased to apply: nothing to the right of PiS. Braun, Mentzen and Karol Nawrocki himself: These are political leaders to the right of PiS, to the right of Kaczyński. They grow in strength. For their voters, NATO will be all evil. And that's what the Russians are about.
Will we lose this stage of war too?
NATO questioning by Poles This is a wet dream of the Kremlin, a wet dream of Putin. And soon this dream will become a reality. Prime Minister Tusk, instead of acting, runs around the park. The spokesman of the seizure is tearing behind him. Let them continue, since this is the most important for them.
